How Medicare Works For Pastors Who Have Opted Out Of Social Security

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Most pastors who have opted out of Social Security understand that they are on their own for their retirement savings. That part is fairly straightforward. But what about Medicare? How does opting out of Social Security affect eligibility? What are the options available?

There is a lot less clarity surrounding Medicare for pastors who have opted out of Social Security. Allow me to sort things out for you so that you understand how Medicare works and how it will be affected by opting out of Social Security.

Parts Of Medicare Explained

Let’s start at the beginning. What is Medicare? Medicare is the government’s health insurance program for people over age 65 and those with severe disabilities. It is often confused with Medicaid, which is the state and federal program that provides health coverage for low-income individuals. Thus, Medicare is based on age and Medicaid is based on income.

To understand how opting out of Social Security affects Medicare, you first need to understand the different parts of Medicare. It is broken down into four parts:

Medicare Part A: Hospital Coverage

Part A provides coverage for inpatient hospital care, inpatient stays in most skilled nursing facilities, and hospice and home health services.

Medicare Part B: Medical Coverage

Part B provides coverage for outpatient and preventive care, doctor and clinical lab services, physical and occupational therapy, home health care, and screenings, surgical fees, and supplies. Parts A and B are also referred to as Original Medicare.

Medicare Part C: Medicare Advantage (Combination Of A & B)

Called Medicare Advantage, Part C is an alternative way of getting the coverage from parts A and B. It can also be combined with part D to create a Medicare Advantage Prescription Drug Plan.

Medicare Part D: Prescription Drug Coverage

Part D helps cover the cost of prescription drugs. Medicare Part D can be a stand-alone plan or can be combined with Part C to create a Medicare Advantage Prescription Drug Plan.

What Medicare Costs

For most people who have paid into Social Security, the Part A premium is free, but there are deductibles and coinsurance. The Part B premium costs $134 a month for 2018, and there is also a deductible and coinsurance. Part C premium costs vary by plan, as do Part D costs.

Differences For Pastors Who Have Opted Out

While you may hear talk of “eligibility” for Medicare, opting out of Social Security only affects your costs, not your eligibility. Anyone over age 65 who is a US citizen or legal resident and has lived in the US continuously for at least 5 years is eligible for Medicare. You can double check with this Eligibility & Premium Calculator from medicare.gov.

Only the cost of Part A is affected by opting out of Social Security. Just as you must have paid into Social Security for 40 quarters to be eligible to receive retirement benefits, you must have done the same to be eligible to receive premium-free Part A. If you paid into the system for 30-39 quarters, the premium will cost you $232 a month. If you have less than 30 quarters your premium will cost $422. These are the costs for 2018 and may change.

Generally, if you worked 10 years before opting out of Social Security it shouldn’t affect you. If you worked 7 ½ to 10 years, you will pay the lower premium. Anything less than 7 ½ years will leave you paying the higher premium. If you are close to the cutoff for one of these ranges, it might be worthwhile to get a part-time job for a little while until you have enough quarter credit to move into the next cost bracket. In 2018, you only need to earn $1,320 of wages for one quarter credit towards eligibility.

Spousal Benefits

Just like with Social Security retirement benefits, you can receive discounted or free Medicare Part A premiums based on your spouse’s work history. First, you must have been married for at least one year. Second, you must be at least age 65. Third, your spouse with an eligible work history must be at least age 62. If your spouse is too young, you will have to pay the premiums only until he or she reaches age 62.


As you can see, opting out of Social Security doesn’t have as big of an effect on Medicare as it does on your retirement benefits. However, the effects are still too big to be ignored. If you are only a few quarters away from eligibility for reduced or free premiums, you should weigh the benefits of doing some secular work on the side.

If you anticipate paying full premiums, consider saving towards them in an HSA for the tax benefits. No matter your situation, the fact that you are learning about this and preparing for your future puts you way ahead of most people. Good job, I’m proud of you!

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38 Responses
  • Kevin
    January 21, 2019

    If a pastor ops out of social security and neither he nor his wife has 40 quarters of work history, will each of them need to pay the $422 monthly premium for Medicare part A to obtain that coverage? Thanks!

    • Amy
      January 22, 2019

      Yes, you will need to pay for Part A if you do not have enough quarters of work history. If you have 30-39 quarters you will pay a discounted price, and anything less than 30 quarters you will have to pay full price.

  • Brian
    February 6, 2019

    I am exempt from social security but my wife is not. She is 7 years younger than me. If she has accumulated 40 quarters of work history, will I be eligible for free Medicare part A coverage once she turns 62? Does this mean that, upon retiring at age 65, I would pay Medicare part A premiums until she is 62?

    • Amy
      February 10, 2019

      Correct on both counts. You will have to pay for Medicare until she turns 62, at which point the spousal benefit will kick in and you won’t have to pay anymore.

  • Peter
    March 7, 2019

    This is extremely helpful.. Can you supply a little more references for this information? I am 60 years old and have filed form 4361. My Social security statement says I have 40 quarters. But I am a little anxious!

  • Mark
    March 18, 2019

    I had 7 years of work paying into social security & medicare before becoming a pastor and filing approved 4361 exemption. I then left pastoral ministry and worked in non-profit as an employee (paying social security and medicare) for another 10 years before going back to pastoral ministry recently.
    1. Do I have to file another exemption or is my previous exemption / opting out still in place?
    2. Did the years that I worked in non-pastoral ministry after opting out of social security prior to still accrue and count toward my 40 quarters even though I had opted out for pastoral earnings prior to that?

    • Amy
      March 19, 2019

      Mark,

      1. You do not have to file another exemption. The original one you filed counts for all ministerial earnings for the rest of your life.
      2. All of your non-ministerial earnings count towards the calculation of your Social Security benefits, even after you opted out. Since this is a very unique matter, not all Social Security Administration employees understand this. If you have any trouble when you go to claim your benefits, this article has a lot of useful information and links to support your case: https://pastorswallet.com/how-to-appeal-a-social-security-benefits-decision/

  • Pastor David Nehrenz
    January 30, 2020

    Hello, I turn 65 on April 18, 2020. I opted out of Social Security in 1985. I had 29 earned quarters before 1985 towards Social Security and Medicare. My wife has worked over 10 years and has all the quarters needed for her to get Medicare in 2026. I went to apply for Medicare at the Social Security office, and the manager printed off form POMS RS 01802.270 which says that when I opted out I “waived the right to Social Security and Medicare.” But it also said “do not confuse this exemption with that available to ministers via an approved Form 4361” See POMS RS 01802.061. I did fill out Form 4361 in 1985. They sent my application further up the administration and will call me back on Feb. 14. I thought I COULD still purchase Medicare. Please advise me! Thanks.

  • Amy
    February 4, 2020

    Pastor David,
    You’re experiencing firsthand one of the most confusing and least understood parts of personal finance for pastors. POMS clearly states, “The granting of an exemption to a minister applies to ministerial earnings does not preclude the payment of benefits based upon other covered work, nor does it prevent a clergyman from enrolling in the SMI program.” SMI is Medicare. Here is the link for that section: https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0301802063

    Please report back and let us know what they say when they call you back!

  • Shirley Miller
    February 28, 2020

    If a pastor opted out of Social Security but his wife paid into it, I know he can receive Medicare through her work history. HOWEVER, she is deceased. Does this situation still apply? Can he still receive Medicare Part A free through a deceased wife’s Social Security?

    • Amy
      March 3, 2020

      Shirley, he should still be eligible for benefits based on her record, whether Medicare or Social Security.

  • Shirley
    March 4, 2020

    Thank you.

  • Ric lig
    April 14, 2020

    I was a pastor 2000-2007. I did not opt out of social security. I then was in jobs where I paid into social security from 2007-July 2018. I then became a minister again at another church July 2018. Can I apply to opt out now.

    Also I have over 40 quarters of paying into social security. If I can opt out will it affect any of my social security benefits ie. Medicare and social security.

    • Amy
      April 19, 2020

      Ric, no you cannot opt out anymore. You have to file the form to opt out by the due date of your tax return for the second year in which you have at least $400 of ministerial income. Basically, you only have about two years from the time you start working as a pastor. This article explains it: https://pastorswallet.com/what-is-the-deadline-for-pastors-to-opt-out-of-social-security-with-form-4361/

      To answer your other question, if you were able to opt out it would not affect any benefits that you have already earned.

  • Tony M.
    April 22, 2020

    Tony M.
    Hi! I am 65 Years old ordained minister, and opted out of SS long time ago. I have only 16 quarters on record. My wife (57) has over 14 years of SS payments. Recently and due to the Coronavirus crisis I lost my job at a Bible School, and was put on retirement. But I was told that I cannot Choose to continue the group insurance plan I had Since I am 65. I understood from previous posts that I am eligible for a free plan A when my wife reaches 62, no? How about my wife? Can she get her Medicare A anytime soon? Is there another alternative for pastors to Medicare that can cover both of us in case the sum total of all our individual payments amounts to a big sum of money?
    Many Thanks
    Tony

    • Amy
      April 25, 2020

      Tony,
      Your wife will not be eligible for Medicare until 3 months before the month she turns 65. Everyone has a 7-month window (3 months before, the month they turn 65, and 3 months after) in which to enroll in Medicare. If you don’t enroll during that time and don’t have an approved exemption (such as a current workplace plan), then you will have to pay a penalty for the rest of your life. Since you are already 65, you will need to enroll in Medicare and pay the Part A premiums until your wife is 62. If she doesn’t have access to medical care through a workplace plan, then she will need to look for coverage on your state’s Obamacare exchange.

      • Tony
        April 30, 2020

        Thanks Amy for this helpful reply!

        • Amy
          April 30, 2020

          You’re welcome!

  • Heather D
    June 16, 2020

    What about Medicaid? We can’t find info anywhere on this. We can’t apply for financial aid At hospitals without applying for Medicaid first. I actually think we would be approved but I’m not sure if it’s legal since my husband opted out of social security. I think if I had an income that would help but I’m his dependent since I am a stay at home mom.

    • Amy
      June 20, 2020

      You can still be eligible for Medicaid after opting out of Social Security. They are two different programs. I know of pastors who have received Medicaid after opting out.

  • Larry
    August 3, 2021

    I will be 65 in 1 1/2 years. My wife will turn 63 this December. She has more than 40 quarters. I am exempt from social security but she is not. If I understand the previous conversations, when I turn 65 and since she will be over 62, my Medicare A will be no cost? Is that true? Is that true if she is still working and has not retired yet?

    • Amy
      August 3, 2021

      Larry, yes, that is the way it is supposed to work. As long as your eligible spouse is over 62, you should be able to receive Medicare Part A for free. I know some pastors who have opted out get pushback when the apply for spousal benefits, but nowhere does it say that opting out disqualifies you. If you have any trouble, be persistent and you should be able to get Part A for free.

  • John Gillespie
    November 30, 2021

    From John. I turn 65 in Jan, my wife in Nov, ’22. We opted out in 1988 as we lived and pastored in the UK and paid fully into their SS. Now we are back in the USA. I have only 29 quarters, my wife similar.

    Can I back-file 11 quarters of Income Tax statements and pay the SS contributions so that I can be eligible for Part A at no cost? I understand I cannot opt back in for SS income, but can I for Medicare purposes?

    • Amy
      December 2, 2021

      John, as far as I know, you are not able to do that. In order to get your last 11 quarters you would need to work a secular job for the next couple of years. For 2022, you only need to earn $1,510 to earn a credit, so $6,040 of income would earn you your 4 credits for the year.

  • Mike C
    June 13, 2022

    Thank you for your knowledge and help! I am turning 65 in September. I opted out but my wife has all her quarters and is 63. She doesn’t plan to retire and use her Social Security until her 65th. Since I would be eligible to receive Medicare through her benefit, but don’t need it because I will use her insurance, do I need to file for Medicare through her benefits so that we aren’t penalized on all our future payments once she does file? Or does it not matter about me filing until we are ready for her to retire and then we both file to receive benefits? I appreciate your direction.

  • Jo
    June 16, 2022

    My pastor husband recently had a debilitating stroke, and I don’t think he will recover sufficient to keep his job. He did opt out of social security when he first started pastoring. Do you know if he would qualify for disability payments, or would that fall under the umbrella of the stuff he opted out of? Thank you, sincerely.

    • Jo
      June 16, 2022

      Never mind. I poked around on your (very helpful) website and found the answer for myself.

      • Amy
        June 22, 2022

        Jo, I’m so sorry to hear about your husband’s stroke. I’m glad you were able to find the answer to your question, though.

  • Sarah
    August 5, 2022

    Are pastors who have opted out of social security still eligible for Medicaid and/or premium tax credits via the health insurance marketplace (Obamacare)? My husband is a full time pastor who has opted out of social security. Our family does not have group health insurance coverage, but based on income we will qualify for Medicaid. My understanding is that our children and myself will be able to enroll in Medicaid but we aren’t sure about my husband?

    • Brandon
      September 29, 2023

      I have the same question. Amy, can you help?

      • Amy
        October 1, 2023

        I’m sorry I missed Sarah’s question. My understanding is that you can still be eligible for Medicaid even after opting out. You might want to double check with the Medicaid office, though.

  • Leslie
    February 6, 2024

    Amy –
    Thanks for your excellent work!
    My question: what healthcare/health insurance options do I have as a soon-to-be retired pastor (I’m over age 65) who opted out of social security?

    • Amy
      February 12, 2024

      Leslie, you should be signing up for Medicare. The only difference that opting out makes is that you will have to pay premiums for Part A coverage.

  • Leslie
    February 12, 2024

    Got it. Thank you.

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