What Is The Deadline For Pastors To Opt Out Of Social Security With Form 4361?

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We recently went over Form 4361, the IRS document used by pastors to receive an exemption from self-employment taxes. If you’re not familiar with it, you should go back and read about it here.

One thing we didn’t discuss in that article, though, was the timing. That’s because I didn’t want to overwhelm you with too much information. So, today we are discussing the timing involved and I will give you multiple examples to make things as clear as possible. It is important that you understand when Form 4361 can be filed because once your window of opportunity is gone, it is gone forever.

Is There A Time Limit For Pastors To File Form 4361 To Opt Out Of Social Security?

Specific dates are requested on the form because you only have a small window of time in which you are allowed to opt out of Social Security. Form 4361 must be filed by the due date, including extensions, of the second tax year in which you have $400 or more of net earnings from self-employment, any of which came from ministerial services.

That’s kind of long, so let’s break it down in reverse:

Earnings From Ministerial Services

The clock starts ticking when you have earnings from ministerial services. The IRS defines ministerial services as the services you perform in the exercise of your ministry. Usually, that would be wages earned or offerings received as a pastor. However, if you perform a wedding and the father of the bride gives you a $50 bill, that also counts as earnings from ministerial services. Basically, any money given to you because of some pastoral thing you did counts.

$400 Of Net Earnings From Self-Employment

You need to have at least $400 of net earnings from self-employment for the tax year in question to count towards the time limit. It is important to note that you don’t have to have $400 of ministerial income. Other non-ministerial self-employment income counts towards the $400. Even if you only earn the $50 for performing the wedding, if you earned at least $350 in your secular side gig, it counts towards your two years.

Second Tax Year

The deadline to file Form 4361 is based on two tax years. Tax years are calendar years and for this situation, they do not have to be consecutive. So, if you earn at least $400 of pastoral income one year and none the next, the deadline to request an exemption will not be triggered until the next year that you have sufficient ministerial income.

Due Date, Including Extensions

Finally, the due date for your Form 4361 is the due date for your tax return, including extensions. Tax returns are usually due on April 15 of the following year. Sometimes the date gets pushed back a day or two if the 15th falls on a weekend or holiday. In addition, everyone is eligible to file for a 6-month extension to file their return, which pushes the date to October 15.

Let’s take a look at how this might look in real life.

Examples Of How It Applies In Different Situations

Let’s look at an example. You get licensed and start a regular pastoral job in 2021 which pays you $50,000 a year. That means that your first tax year is 2021 and your second tax year is 2022, so you have to file Form 4361 by the due date for your 2022 tax return. That was April 18, 2023, but you could file an extension until October 16, 2023. So, you need to submit your Form 4361 by October 16, 2023.

Here’s another example: You get ordained in 2020 and work part-time, earning $10,000. Then, you take two years off and earn no ministerial income. In 2023 you do a few weddings and earn $500. Your deadline for filing Form 4361 will be the due date for your 2023 return. Even though you were ordained in 2020, the following two years, 2021 and 2022, don’t count towards the time limit because you had no pastoral income during those two years.  

One final example for the entrepreneurs out there: You have a small side business that generates $5,000 a year. You are ordained in December 2022 and earn $80 as a pastor that year. The next year, 2023, you work full-time as a pastor and earn $60,000. Your Form 4361 is due by the due date for your 2023 tax return. Even though your ministerial income was below $400 in 2022, your other self-employment exceeded the limit so that year counts.


It is vital that you understand the timing required for filing Form 4361. If you don’t file by the deadline, you forever lose the opportunity to opt out. There are no second chances here.

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Financial Planning & Speaking Engagements With The Pastor’s Wallet’s Amy Artiga

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I recently announced that I have obtained the Certified Financial Planner™ designation. As a result, I got a number of responses asking what kind of services I offer as a financial planner. One generous reader even wisely told me, “a more ‘aggressive’ tooting of your own horn would be appropriate.”

I hear you. Today I’m going to tell you about what I do beyond this blog, in case you want to be a part of it. 

Financial Planning Services

I offer financial planning services through Guide Financial Planning. This is a different company than Pastor’s Wallet and I do not own it. Financial planning and investment management is a very highly regulated industry so it requires a different business entity than the educational content I provide through Pastor’s Wallet.

I was originally planning on starting my own financial planning firm in order to have complete control over my schedule, who I serve, and how I serve them. I wanted a flexible schedule where I could put my family first and I didn’t just want to work with wealthy people‒I wanted to provide comprehensive financial planning for pastors and the middle class. 

Then I found Guide Financial Planning. 

At Guide, I have flexibility and get to do everything I want to do without having to go through the trouble and regulatory burden of starting my own financial planning firm. On top of that, I get to work with a wonderful team of people that have my back when I’m sick and help me out with my work and are also a joy to be around. Guide was serving pastors even before I showed up‒I consider it a match made in heaven.

Comprehensive Financial Plan

Through Guide Financial Planning, I offer three services; two of which are one-time engagements and one is ongoing. Our core initial offering is a comprehensive financial plan. This is a comprehensive overview of every area of your financial life, including cash flow and budgeting, retirement planning, investments, taxes, housing allowance, Social Security, estate planning, debt, and any other topic that is relevant to your situation. You can read a more in-depth description and see sample financial plans here.   

Quick Start Session

For those who are not ready for a comprehensive financial plan or just have a few key questions, I do something called a Quick Start Session. This is just a 1 ½ hour video call where I address your most pressing issues. Examples of that would be looking at retirement projections to see how long your money may last, analyzing what to do with an inheritance or how best to pay off debt, or even just a starter session for a new pastor where I can explain all of the uniqueness of clergy finance and help you figure out how it applies to your life. 

Ongoing Financial Planning

Those are the two one-time services that I provide. For those who do a comprehensive financial plan, they have the option of continuing with ongoing financial planning services. This is perfect for people who don’t like managing their finances on their own, need accountability in order to be a good steward, or want to make sure their spouse will be able to take things over as easily as possible if something happens to them. 

With this service, I will walk with you through life. We will meet twice a year and connect as often as you need in order to have confidence that you are on top of things and headed in the right direction. I can also manage investments for my ongoing clients, though that is not a requirement to work together. You can read more about ongoing financial planning here

If you are interested in any of the three financial planning services I just discussed, you can schedule a free introductory call to learn more and tell me about your situation here. Please only schedule a call with that link if you are actually interested in financial planning. For all other things, such as questions about how clergy finances work, please email me at amy@pastorswallet.com

Speaking Engagements

In addition to the financial planning services that I offer through Guide Financial Planning, I also do speaking engagements through Pastor’s Wallet. I love doing webinars for churches, denominations, and other groups. The fee for a 60-75 minute webinar that includes Q&A is currently $500. I do a very limited number of in-person speaking engagements for conferences and retreats, which you can email me about if you’re interested. 

People often ask me how I make money from Pastor’s Wallet since there are no ads. The truth is, I don’t really. The bulk of my income comes from financial planning through Guide FP. As far as Pastor’s Wallet is concerned, I only make money from speaking engagements and book royalties, which is enough to cover the costs of the website plus a little. I could probably make a lot more if I put advertisements on the blog, but I just find those so annoying that I don’t have the heart to do that to you. 

How Do You Know If You Need Financial Planning?

Let me end with a quick story. I grew up in Southern California. Once when I was a teenager, my friends and I stayed at the beach late and before we left a thick fog had rolled in from the ocean. By the time we got to our car, the fog was so thick that we could not see which way to go to get out of the parking lot. 

I ended up having to get out of the car and walk in front of it staring at the ground while my friend slowly rolled along behind me with the headlights on. We inched along for quite awhile until I found a curb and was able to follow it to the parking lot’s exit. Even now, decades later, I remember the emotions I experienced that night. It was incredibly unnerving not to be able to see where we were or what way we needed to go to get out of there. 

If that’s how you feel with your financial life, then you need a financial plan. A financial plan won’t change anything about your current situation. What it will do is lift the fog and give you a clear picture of where you currently are and what steps you need to take in order to go where you want to go in life. 



Here are some other articles you might find helpful:

What is Financial Planning?

What is Financial Planning for Pastors?

What Does the Bible Say About Financial Planning?

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