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Financial Planning & Speaking Engagements With The Pastor’s Wallet’s Amy Artiga

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I recently announced that I have obtained the Certified Financial Planner™ designation. As a result, I got a number of responses asking what kind of services I offer as a financial planner. One generous reader even wisely told me, “a more ‘aggressive’ tooting of your own horn would be appropriate.”

I hear you. Today I’m going to tell you about what I do beyond this blog, in case you want to be a part of it. 

Financial Planning Services

I offer financial planning services through Guide Financial Planning. This is a different company than Pastor’s Wallet and I do not own it. Financial planning and investment management is a very highly regulated industry so it requires a different business entity than the educational content I provide through Pastor’s Wallet.

I was originally planning on starting my own financial planning firm in order to have complete control over my schedule, who I serve, and how I serve them. I wanted a flexible schedule where I could put my family first and I didn’t just want to work with wealthy people‒I wanted to provide comprehensive financial planning for pastors and the middle class. 

Then I found Guide Financial Planning. 

At Guide, I have flexibility and get to do everything I want to do without having to go through the trouble and regulatory burden of starting my own financial planning firm. On top of that, I get to work with a wonderful team of people that have my back when I’m sick and help me out with my work and are also a joy to be around. Guide was serving pastors even before I showed up‒I consider it a match made in heaven.

Comprehensive Financial Plan

Through Guide Financial Planning, I offer three services; two of which are one-time engagements and one is ongoing. Our core initial offering is a comprehensive financial plan. This is a comprehensive overview of every area of your financial life, including cash flow and budgeting, retirement planning, investments, taxes, housing allowance, Social Security, estate planning, debt, and any other topic that is relevant to your situation. You can read a more in-depth description and see sample financial plans here.   

Quick Start Session

For those who are not ready for a comprehensive financial plan or just have a few key questions, I do something called a Quick Start Session. This is just a 1 ½ hour video call where I address your most pressing issues. Examples of that would be looking at retirement projections to see how long your money may last, analyzing what to do with an inheritance or how best to pay off debt, or even just a starter session for a new pastor where I can explain all of the uniqueness of clergy finance and help you figure out how it applies to your life. 

Ongoing Financial Planning

Those are the two one-time services that I provide. For those who do a comprehensive financial plan, they have the option of continuing with ongoing financial planning services. This is perfect for people who don’t like managing their finances on their own, need accountability in order to be a good steward, or want to make sure their spouse will be able to take things over as easily as possible if something happens to them. 

With this service, I will walk with you through life. We will meet twice a year and connect as often as you need in order to have confidence that you are on top of things and headed in the right direction. I can also manage investments for my ongoing clients, though that is not a requirement to work together. You can read more about ongoing financial planning here

If you are interested in any of the three financial planning services I just discussed, you can schedule a free introductory call to learn more and tell me about your situation here. Please only schedule a call with that link if you are actually interested in financial planning. For all other things, such as questions about how clergy finances work, please email me at amy@pastorswallet.com

Speaking Engagements

In addition to the financial planning services that I offer through Guide Financial Planning, I also do speaking engagements through Pastor’s Wallet. I love doing webinars for churches, denominations, and other groups. The fee for a 60-75 minute webinar that includes Q&A is currently $500. I do a very limited number of in-person speaking engagements for conferences and retreats, which you can email me about if you’re interested. 

People often ask me how I make money from Pastor’s Wallet since there are no ads. The truth is, I don’t really. The bulk of my income comes from financial planning through Guide FP. As far as Pastor’s Wallet is concerned, I only make money from speaking engagements and book royalties, which is enough to cover the costs of the website plus a little. I could probably make a lot more if I put advertisements on the blog, but I just find those so annoying that I don’t have the heart to do that to you. 

How Do You Know If You Need Financial Planning?

Let me end with a quick story. I grew up in Southern California. Once when I was a teenager, my friends and I stayed at the beach late and before we left a thick fog had rolled in from the ocean. By the time we got to our car, the fog was so thick that we could not see which way to go to get out of the parking lot. 

I ended up having to get out of the car and walk in front of it staring at the ground while my friend slowly rolled along behind me with the headlights on. We inched along for quite awhile until I found a curb and was able to follow it to the parking lot’s exit. Even now, decades later, I remember the emotions I experienced that night. It was incredibly unnerving not to be able to see where we were or what way we needed to go to get out of there. 

If that’s how you feel with your financial life, then you need a financial plan. A financial plan won’t change anything about your current situation. What it will do is lift the fog and give you a clear picture of where you currently are and what steps you need to take in order to go where you want to go in life. 



Here are some other articles you might find helpful:

What is Financial Planning?

What is Financial Planning for Pastors?

What Does the Bible Say About Financial Planning?

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What is Financial Planning for Pastors?

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Recently, I explained to you what financial planning is. Just like pastoring is a whole lot more than just preaching, financial planning is a whole lot more than just investments. If you haven’t read that article, I would recommend reading it here before continuing on. 

I gave an overview of the different areas of financial planning in that article and now today we will do a deep dive and look at some examples of how that plays out for pastors and the strategies that we use that are unique to people in your position. Let’s start with the clergy housing allowance. That’s an easy one, right? Just maximize it and save on taxes? Not always. Let me show you how a financial planner approaches these things.

Housing Allowance

Sometimes maximizing your housing allowance can actually cost you money. Take, for example, the child tax credit. A portion of the child tax credit is refundable, meaning the government gives you the money even if you don’t owe any taxes. However, the refundable portion is limited by your taxable income. Claiming a lower housing allowance increases your taxable income and your refundable credit. In this manner, you can actually end up ahead by lowering your housing allowance. (This doesn’t apply under special rules for 2021 and President Biden would like to make changes to this, so stay tuned.)

Your tax preparer isn’t going to tell you this, though. Their job is to report your numbers accurately, not help you strategize and plan for the future. That’s what a financial planner does. A good planner understands the interplay between the child tax credit and the housing allowance and will help you calculate a housing allowance amount that allows you to maximize the benefits of both. 

Charitable Giving

One thing I know about pastors is that you are incredibly generous. Not just because you’re laying down your life and the potential for a more lucrative career for the church, but you tithe. You give to missionaries. You support children in Rwanda. You help finance church plants. Those are all things that can be tax-deductible if you itemize your deductions. Unfortunately, hardly anyone itemizes their deductions now that the standard deduction is so high. When you claim the standard deduction, you don’t get a tax benefit for charitable giving. While your treasure in heaven is increasing, your tax bill is staying the same. 

There are strategies for getting a tax benefit for your current level of charitable giving, even if you usually claim the standard deduction. You can utilize a bunching strategy and donor-advised fund. These things get a little complex, but a financial planner can walk you through it as if they do it every day. Because, well, they do.

Retirement

What about retirement? Thinking about retirement is one of the most common things that inspires people to look for professional financial help. What does a financial planner do that an online retirement savings calculator and an account-rebalancing robo-advisor can’t do? Strategize. Apply the tax law to you personally. Help you understand your trade-offs and weigh them before making a decision. 

Housing Allowance in Retirement

The generic advice is to roll your 403(b) account into an IRA when you retire. However, if you read this blog, you know that leaving your money in your 403(b) makes it eligible for the housing allowance in retirement. But should you leave all your money in your 403(b) or move some of it out? That can only be determined by a financial planner addressing your unique situation, not this blog. 

You see, it might be best to move some of the money from your 403(b) into an IRA. You can only claim a housing allowance as long as you, the pastor, are alive. Your spouse can’t claim a housing allowance after you die and your heirs cannot claim one either. Everything in your 403(b) will be taxable once you are gone. Depending on your situation and the costs and investments available in your 403(b), you might want to move some of your money.

Qualified Charitable Distributions

Once you reach age 70 ½, you can do something called a Qualified Charitable Distribution (QCD) from an IRA where you send a check directly from the IRA to a charity and it completely bypasses your tax return. It is never reported to the IRS and does not count as taxable income. If you’re planning on making charitable donations in your later years, this is a great way to do it. 

QCDs can only be made from an IRA, so it might be best in your situation to move some of your 403(b) into an IRA for charitable purposes. The money still comes out tax-free and you lower the balance of the 403(b) that your spouse or heirs may have to pay taxes on. Remember, we never know when God will call us heavenward and it’s all taxable after that. 

Roth Conversions

Another way to minimize taxes from your retirement accounts is through Roth conversions. This is where you move money from a traditional pre-tax account to an after-tax account by paying taxes on it in the current year. You may have some low-income years, perhaps after you retire and before you start collecting Social Security benefits or while you take time off to go to seminary and live off of savings (so much better than student loans!). If your income is lower than the standard deduction, then you can convert the difference from a traditional account to a Roth IRA completely tax-free. It may even make sense to convert some of the account at a 10% or 12% tax rate if you think that your taxes will be higher in the future. 

How I Can Help

How do you know how to balance keeping money in your 403(b) for the housing allowance and rolling it into an IRA for QCDs or converting it to a Roth? Work with a financial planner! If you wanted to figure this stuff out yourself, you would have been a financial planner instead of a pastor. Tax strategies just don’t excite you the way that saving souls and helping people does. 

The thing is, tax strategies actually excite me. It’s a little embarrassing because it proves that I’m a total nerd, but it’s true. Since I’m into this stuff, I figured I might as well embrace it and use my nerdiness to help people like you. So I became a financial planner. 

Yes, I’m now officially a financial planner, state-registered and everything. I can now legally take on clients. The best part is, I don’t work alone. I’m part of an amazing team at Guide Financial Planning, so if you work with me, you’ll probably get to meet some of them too.  

If you’re looking for professional help, our team at Guide Financial Planning would be honored to have the opportunity to serve you. You can schedule a call with this link so we can get to know you, tell you more about ourselves, and see what the future may hold for us. 

PS – While I love pastors, I’m trained to work with the sheep as well. If you know any nice ones looking for financial help, go ahead and send them my way. We would be honored to serve them as well.

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What is Financial Planning?

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I am now officially a financial planner. When I tell people I’m a financial planner, they usually say something like, “So you do investing?” Most people think that financial planning is managing people’s stock and bond investments and some think it involves selling insurance. But it’s not that at all.

It’s just like when you say you are busy and people say, “Well what do you actually do besides preach on Sunday? What could possibly keep you busy Monday through Friday?” Sometimes that makes you want to smack your forehead or curl up into a fetal position and cry out, “Why, Lord?” Doesn’t it?

That’s because you are not a preacher, you are a pastor. Your job is to shepherd the people of God into Christlikeness and preaching is just a tiny part of that. If all you did was preach, the vast majority of the people under your care would not get to where God wants them to be. Your job is so much more than just preaching. It is counseling, studying, investing in your own relationship with God so that you are in a position to lead, coordinating volunteers so that people’s needs can be met, developing discipleship programs, training small group leaders so that more people in the church can receive one-on-one care, reviewing financial statements and making decisions so that you have a place to meet and staff to meet people’s needs, etc. You know that you could add a whole lot more to that list. 

Just like preaching is only a small part of pastoring, investments are only a small part of financial planning. Let me tell you what else there is.

Financial Planning is a Process

First of all, financial planning is a process. That’s why you add the -ing because it’s an ongoing process. There is a difference between a financial plan and financial planning. Financial planning is a holistic process of recognizing what matters to you in life and figuring out how to apply your finances to help you get from where you are to where you want to be. My job as a financial planner is to help people understand and manage their finances in a way that aligns with their values and moves them towards their goals. 

One misconception I had getting into this field is that a financial planner is supposed to tell people what to do with their money. My introduction to the financial world was through Dave Ramsey, so that makes sense. However, I’ve learned that my job is not to tell people what to do. My job is to analyze people’s finances and then educate them on their various options and the consequences of each. My job is not to make decisions for people but rather empower them to make their own decisions with confidence. The process of financial planning is ongoing because life is always changing and there are always new options, priorities, and decisions to be made. 

Financial Planning Vs. A Financial Plan

Now, at my firm, we offer both financial planning and financial plans. The difference is that while financial planning is ongoing, like discipleship, a financial plan only addresses where you are at one moment in time, more like a one-time counseling session. A financial plan looks at every area of your financial life (we’ll go over them below) and fits them all together like a puzzle in order to create the personalized picture that you want for your life. 

We always start everyone with a financial plan, but then each person gets to decide what they want to do moving forward. For some, the financial plan is enough of a foundation where they can take it and do their own financial planning going forward. Others decide that they want to work with us on an ongoing basis so they have someone to keep them accountable, bounce ideas off of, and help them navigate their ever-changing life and complex financial landscape. 

The Components of Financial Planning

If it’s “so much more than investing,” what do a financial plan and financial planning entail?

Goals

It starts with your goals. Do you ever get in the car and start driving without knowing where you’re going? I know some people might, but to me that’s ludicrous. You have to start with the end in mind in order to know what steps to take to get there. Financial planning is the same. Do you want to be able to serve a poor church? Do you want to be financially independent by age 50? Those are very different goals and the same person would end up with completely different financial plans depending on which one they wanted to achieve.

Cash Flow

Getting a handle on how much money you have coming in and how much money you have going out is the foundation of a financial plan. If you don’t know how much money you have, you don’t know what you have to work with to help you achieve your goals. It’s like when you cook from a recipe. You need to make sure you have all of the ingredients on hand, otherwise, it won’t work no matter how great the recipe looks. You need to plan your meal based on the ingredients you have on hand or go out and get more ingredients! So, the first step in financial planning is checking your pantry (or your income and spending) so you have a good idea of what you have to work with.

Financial Independence/Retirement Planning

One of the most common reasons people seek professional financial help is that they are thinking about retirement. Either they are younger and want to make sure they are doing what they need to in order to be able to retire someday, or they are getting close to wanting to retire and want to know if they can afford to. Even if you never want to retire, like me, it’s important to plan for a season of life in which you may not be able to earn an income. You never know when your health will fail or you’ll need to care for a loved one full-time or something else like that. As such, retirement or financial independence planning is a very important part of a financial plan. 

Investment Planning

Finally, investments! While they aren’t everything, investments are an important part of a financial plan because they help fund your goals. How well you do your investing affects how soon you’ll have the money necessary to achieve those goals. Whether your goal is retirement, a college education, or purchasing a home, it’s important to make sure that your investments align with your needs. 

What is your time horizon; do you need the money in two years or twenty? What is your risk tolerance; how much of the stock market’s ups and downs can you stomach? How much are you actually paying for your investments and how will that affect the amount of money you end up with? Good financial planning doesn’t stick you into a one-size-fits-all investment model or product, but rather provides concrete advice based on proven principles and your own personal financial and emotional needs. 

Protection Planning

I mentioned earlier that some of us don’t want to retire and saving for retirement is more of a defensive move. Well, there are some other defensive moves that you will want to take as well. You see, it’s just as important to watch your back as it is to charge forward with your financial life. One incident could completely derail a great plan or completely wipe out all of the gains that you worked so hard for. 

That’s where insurance comes in. Insurance protects you from the things that would keep you from moving forward. It doesn’t actually move you forward financially (no one likes paying premiums when they feel they get nothing in return) but it keeps you from going backward. Some of the protection we touch on in financial plans are emergency funds, life insurance, health insurance, disability insurance, long-term care insurance, homeowners or renters insurance, auto insurance, and umbrella insurance. 

Tax Planning

Usually, optimizing your finances means minimizing your taxes. Taxes can be a major drain on your income, so every area of your financial life, from the kind of retirement account you invest in to the type of investments you have in each account to how you do your charitable giving, needs to be viewed through a lens of not just how to minimize your taxes today, but how to minimize them over your entire lifetime. 

Charitable Giving Planning

God has called us to be generous givers. Some of that giving can help us save on taxes. If charitable giving is a part of your life (as I suspect it is), then your financial plan should also address strategies for maximizing the tax benefits of the charitable giving that you already do. 

Real Estate Planning

Now we’re getting into the sections that aren’t in every financial plan because they don’t apply to everyone. However, if owning a home or rental real estate is in your future or part of your current reality, then it needs to be addressed in your financial plan. This is especially important for pastors because you are eligible for the clergy housing allowance, which can save you a lot in taxes. Because of the expertise I’ve developed with this blog, I get brought in on every financial plan our firm writes for a pastor to ensure that they are optimizing their housing allowance and not leaving any money on the table. 

Education Planning

If you have kids that you want to send to college (or you want to go yourself), that needs to be a part of your financial plan. How much should you save? Where should you save it? Is there anything else you can do to avoid student loan debt? Those are all questions that financial planning should address. 

Debt Planning

Speaking of student debt, what do you do once you have it? With so many different repayment plans available, there are financial planners out there who specialize in working specifically with student loans. Your financial plan should include a plan for when and how your debt (of all kinds) will be paid based on your personal financial situation and priorities.

Estate Planning

Estate planning is a topic that needs to be addressed in a financial plan though the bulk of it belongs to lawyers. Financial planners cannot write wills or other estate planning documents, but it’s our job to help you see the importance of having those documents in place and making sure all of the beneficiary designations on your various accounts actually align with your final wishes. 

I just listed eleven areas of financial planning. And that’s not all there is! If you’re planning a large purchase, like a car, that should be included in your financial plan. If you have a special needs child, caring for them should be included in your financial plan. Parents that you’re responsible for? That needs to be in your plan as well. The above areas are the most common to each plan, but the areas that a plan addresses are as varied and countless as the people they are written for. 

I hope this gives you a clearer picture of what financial planning is. Don’t feel bad if you didn’t know before. Most people don’t know because it’s such a new profession. It was birthed out of insurance sales and stock brokering, so it isn’t any wonder most people think it’s all about investments and life insurance. Let me tell you, if that’s what it was, I wouldn’t be doing it. 

While financial planning does deal with numbers, the true focus is the client as a person with a specific and unique call of God on his or her life, and the numbers are simply a means to an end. In fact, I have heard it said on more than one occasion that financial planning is like secular pastoring. (Though at my firm we don’t keep it secular!)

Come back in two weeks to hear about how financial planning applies specifically to pastors and some of the strategies we use at my firm.

If this article has made you curious about the firm I work for and our approach to financial planning, check out our website. Schedule a free introductory phone call if you think you’re ready to do your own financial planning with us.

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I Just Passed The CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Exam & Why I Did It

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About seven years ago, I decided I wanted to be able to help people with money. I had begun listening to Dave Ramsey to stave off the boredom of spending 12 hours a day alone with an infant and it was life-changing. I didn’t know much about money because my parents didn’t know much. All I knew was to work hard and save because eventually you always need money. 

I also knew that finances have a profound impact on your life and your relationships. My mom was a single parent with six kids in southern California, so I had experienced firsthand the levels of stress and anxiety that can come from financial struggles. In listening to Dave Ramsey, I realized that helping someone get control of their finances can change their life, their marriage, their family, and their future for generations to come. I wanted to do that.

Two Avenues For Financial Advice

I began to research and discovered that there are basically two ways to provide people with one-on-one financial advice: as a financial coach or a financial advisor. They share a lot of similarities, but financial coaching is basically unregulated while financial advisors are subject to a lot of regulations because they work with investments and manage money for people. I’m really more interested in the people than the money, so I thought I would become a financial coach. After all, it would be a lot easier to get started without having to jump through hoops for regulators.    

There was one problem, though. To discuss investments, you have to be registered as a financial advisor. While I didn’t want to manage investments, I felt that I wouldn’t be able to serve people adequately without being able to discuss investments. They are kind of an important part of personal finance, even if they aren’t your focus. So, I resigned myself to the fact that I would have to become a registered financial advisor and take on all of the regulatory burdens that come with it. 

Now, this wasn’t a path I was heading down because I needed to make money, but rather because I wanted to help people. Regular, everyday people like my friends and family, who wouldn’t normally be able to afford personalized advice from an expert. I decided that I wanted to develop a level of expertise that I could charge $500/hour for, but offer it to people who could only dream of being able to pay that much. 

What Is The CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Designation?

In the financial advisory space, the CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ designation is the gold standard. There are numerous designations and certifications available, but the hardest and most respected is the CFP® designation, so that’s what I set my sights on. It was a pretty ambitious goal for a stay-at-home mom with no financial services experience. 

Education

There are four requirements for certification. The first is education, which consists of seven college-level financial courses. To fulfill that, I enrolled in the University of Alabama’s Family Financial Planning and Counseling program as soon as both of my kids were in school full-time. Little did I know that they would be coming home full-time halfway through the program. In spite of it all, I completed my Master’s in December 2020 (and am now officially a homeschool mom to boot!). 

Examination

The second requirement is an examination. You have to understand, this isn’t just a test like the final exams you took in college. This is a big, scary test. In 2019, only 62% of the people who took the test passed. They have to limit the number of times you can take it (5) because some people take it multiple times without being able to pass. It’s that hard.

Why? There are two reasons. First, it covers a ton of material (7 classes, remember?). Second, the question writers aim for the top of Bloom’s taxonomy. That means knowing the material and how to apply it is not enough, you have to be able to evaluate and analyze the information, which makes it seem very subjective. I know very intelligent people who have failed this test.

I studied hard for months and up until recently, passing felt absolutely impossible. 

But on Friday, March 12, 2021, I passed on my first attempt. YAY!!!

Experience

Passing the exam is a big accomplishment, but it’s not enough for me to be able to call myself a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ certificant. I need to have real-life experience as well. The requirement is either a 2-year apprenticeship doing financial planning under another CFP® professional or three years doing related work. I’ve already been at it for two years now, but it will still be several more years before I fulfill the experience requirement because I only work part-time (remember those two kids at home with me?). I’ll get there, though, because I love the team that I’m working with over at Guide Financial Planning.

Ethics

The final requirement is a commitment to a very high ethical standard and submission to a thorough background check. I think this one will be easy since Jesus has been my role model for a number of decades now. My background check will be pretty boring for them since I haven’t had a run-in with the law since I was 19 and curious to see how fast my car could go on an open, empty stretch of highway somewhere between San Diego and Sacramento. 

This is an important requirement, though, because most people place the financial industry right down at the ethical bottom along with used car salesmen and Congress. I came across a statistic recently that 65% of people don’t trust the financial services industry to do what’s in the best interest of their clients. I want to help change that statistic and while I would ascribe to high ethics no matter what, I appreciate that the CFP® designation values and requires it.  

 

What’s Next For Me

Does passing the exam make me a financial advisor? No. Because I haven’t met the experience requirement yet, there are a few more (much easier) hoops that I have to jump through in order to be registered as a financial advisor and legally able to provide financial advice for a fee. That’s next on my list and I’ll get it done soon. Until then, I will continue to build my expertise and serve you through this blog. 

This has been a long, hard journey and more than once I have been asked or asked myself, Why are you doing this? It’s not like I have to go through this much trouble just to register as a financial advisor and it’s not like I need it to support my family. However, I have a strong conviction of the Lord’s direction for my life and if I’m going to do this, I’m going to do it with excellence. Whenever I start to doubt, I receive emails from my readers that remind me that I’m on the right path. This has been exhausting, but it is all worth it. Because YOU are worth it. 

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How To Find A Trustworthy Financial Advisor

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You need help with your finances. This blog just isn’t quite enough. You want advice from someone who knows more than you do but you don’t want to end up with Bernie Madoff. What do you do?

There are around 350,000 people in the US who call themselves financial advisors. Some of them are amazing and would make your life infinitely better. And some just want to make money and don’t really care about you. How do you separate the wheat from the chaff? 

How To Search For A Financial Advisor

Know Your Goal

The first thing you should do after deciding you want to work with an advisor is to clarify what it is you want to accomplish. Are you just looking for a life insurance policy? Do you want someone that will help you map out a plan for your finances that you can take and run with? Are you looking for someone to manage your investments for you? Do you just want to know if it’s okay to retire or if you should keep working a couple more years?

Most advisors cannot do all of those things so it is important to know what exactly it is that you’re trying to accomplish. Knowing your end goal will help you narrow down the 350,000 advisors that you have to choose from. 

Ask For References

Next, ask family and friends if they have a trustworthy financial advisor that they think you would get along with and can provide the services that you are looking for. You have to ask individuals and not a search engine for this one. I know that for most things you can do a quick search and read reviews about whatever it is that you’re looking to purchase. 

Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way with financial advisors. Financial advisors are subject to a lot of regulations, including some very strict ones regarding marketing. They are not allowed to ask for online reviews. (If you see a review about an advisor, the person left it without being asked.) They are not allowed to provide testimonials, meaning they are not allowed to have quotes from satisfied clients on their websites or talk about specific things they have achieved for their clients. Because of these rules, many advisors will not provide references if you ask for them. Usually, that would be a red flag, but when it comes to financial advisors you can let it slide.

Look Online

After personal recommendations, start to look online. The end of this article will include some places that you can look. Find at least 3 advisors that you think are worth further review. Then interview them. Most advisors offer free telephone consultations where you can get to know them and their services better before deciding if you want to engage them. If you prefer communicating by email, go ahead and email them some questions. If they tell you they prefer to talk and won’t answer your email questions (which happened to me with a real estate agent), then you know they aren’t a good fit for you!

Questions To Ask A Potential Financial Advisor

Now that you have a few advisors that you want to vet, what do you ask them? How do you determine if they are a good fit or if they will rip you off? Here are some questions to start with:

1. Do you _________________ (insert the service you are looking for)?

Hopefully, the advisor had a good enough website to answer this question, but if you aren’t sure, ask. You don’t want to waste your time getting to know an advisor that doesn’t provide the services you’re looking for.

2. How are you paid?

Advisors are paid in a number of ways. This article goes through them in more detail. You want to make sure that the advisor is paid in a way that you are comfortable with and will not erode your trust.

3. Are you a fiduciary?

This article explains what that word is, how to pronounce it, and why it matters. Basically, some advisors are legally required to do what is best for their clients and others are legally required to do what is best for their company, as long as it’s okay for their client. A fiduciary is the first one. Some advisors say they are fiduciaries when they are not, so make sure they would be willing to put it in writing.

4. What education, experience, and certifications do you have?

You want to make sure that the advisor actually knows what they are talking about. The top certification for financial advisors is the Certified Financial Planner (CFP) certification. To be a CFP, you have to do 6 college-level financial courses, take a grueling exam with a 62% pass rate, have several years’ worth of experience, do a certain number of continuing education hours each year, and adhere to an ethical standard. Most CFPs also have at least a Bachelor’s degree. (Some old ones don’t, but their years of experience likely make up for it.) There are good advisors who are not CFPs, but having the certification guarantees a minimum level of knowledge and experience. (You can verify someone’s CFP status here.)

When it comes to experience, tread lightly. A highly-experienced advisor may be technologically illiterate and therefore hard to work with and a new advisor may be part of a network where he or she can find answers to questions that they cannot answer themselves. If you are interviewing a new advisor, ask them if they have a network or a more experienced mentor that they can turn to for help when they need it.

5. What experience do you have with ministerial finances?

As you probably know by now, pastors have a lot of unique issues when it comes to finances. A financial professional who doesn’t understand them can get you into a lot of trouble. A good test is to ask how pastors are treated for tax purposes. Someone who knows what they are talking about will say that they have dual tax status. Someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about will be confused by the question. 

6. How do you work?

Do you want to meet in person, over the phone, or through video conferencing? Is your preference to sign and fill out papers online or do you want paper copies in the mail? Do you send out weekly emails or will I only hear from you when we are due for a meeting or there is a major event? Every advisor runs their business a little bit differently. It’s important to make sure that you are compatible with the way that they work. 

7. Have you ever been investigated by a regulatory body or convicted of a crime?

Most advisors don’t get this question because it makes people uncomfortable to ask it. So, ask it and see how the advisor responds. It might be a lot of fun. If you want to double check their answer, you can review their Form ADV here or look at FINRA’s Broker Check.  

As you talk to the advisor, gauge your comfort level with them. Do you feel comfortable asking questions? Also, assess their communication style and ability. Are they good at explaining things? Do you feel like you can connect with and understand them?

It’s a good idea to review the advisor’s website to see if you can answer any of these questions ahead of time. Then you can save some time on the phone or ask even more specific questions based on what you found on the website.

Other Things To Look For In An Advisor

The questions above should be the bare minimum that you know about an advisor before you choose to work with them. There are some other things you might want to look into as well.

Location

If you want face-to-face conversation that doesn’t involve a screen, then make sure their location is convenient for you. Not just within your city, but in a place that you won’t dread driving to. If coronavirus has made you comfortable with virtual meetings, then you have many more options available to you.

Worldview

You may want to look for an advisor that shares your worldview. Don’t just hire an advisor who claims to be Christian, but that may be something you want to address. It goes far beyond religion, though. If you’re Latino, you may want to look for an advisor who is as well or at least understands the Latino culture. ¡Porque las culturas no son iguales! Your financial advisor doesn’t have to be exactly like you, but it can make it easier to understand where you are coming from.

Specialized Knowledge

I already mentioned making sure the advisor understands pastoral finances. But your situation may be even more unique than just that. There are advisors with specialized knowledge relating to rental properties, planning for special needs children, paying off student loans, and even homeschooling!

Where To Find An Advisor

Now, where are all of these amazing, trustworthy, uniquely specialized financial advisors hiding? 

  • Christian Financial Advisors Network– These are all both Certified Financial Planners and Certified Kingdom Advisors in addition to offering fee-only advice. They are not just Christians at home, but their businesses are also openly Christian.

  • XY Planning Network– All of these advisors are Certified Financial Planners who are willing to work virtually, and you can even search for Christian advisors or ones who work specifically with pastors.
  • Garrett Planning Network– These are all fee-only advisors, so they are fiduciaries and they have no minimum account requirements.

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How Do Financial Advisors Get Paid? (& Are They Worth It?)

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As of 2018, there were about 352,000 personal financial advisors in the US. “Financial Advisor” is not a regulated term, so it covers a broad range of services and business models. This article will look at the different ways that financial advisors get paid and answer the burning question, Are they actually worth it?

Commissions

Many financial advisors are salesmen who earn their keep through commissions on the products that they sell. Some will tout their services as “free” because you do not have to pay them anything directly. However, theirs is a business and not a ministry, so it is not free. You are paying them for their services, the money just goes to the financial product company first. 

The problem with this model is that it creates a lot of conflicts of interest. You want the financial product that is best for you and the advisor wants to earn money to feed his family. Unfortunately, those two goals do not always line up perfectly. Advisors are often incentivized to sell certain products based on the commissions they receive instead of how well they meet the needs of the client. On top of that, you usually have no idea exactly how much you are paying the advisor, which doesn’t sit well with me.

Are these advisors worth the commissions they get paid? Some are and some aren’t. Some commissioned advisors merely compare your information to their chart of the three or four financial products that their company sells and tell you to buy the best match. You could do that yourself online without paying such a high commission. And doing it independently, you would have more options resulting in something that is a better fit for you. That advisor is not worth it.

Some advisors are highly knowledgeable and will take the time to sit down with you and get to know your personal needs and goals. They will then research the different options and find one that meets your own unique needs, regardless of whether they could get a higher commission with a different product. This is the kind of advisor that is worth the commission.

Asset Management (AUM) Fees

Over the past 20 years, charging a fee based on assets under management (AUM) has become very popular among financial advisors who don’t want the conflicts of interest inherent in the commissioned sales model. The way it works is that you invest your money with the advisor and they take out a regular fee from the account calculated as a percentage of the account. Probably the most common AUM fee is 1%, which means that if you have $250,000 invested with an advisor, you would be paying them $2,500 a year. 

This model better aligns the interests of the advisor and client because as the client’s wealth grows, so does the advisor’s fee. It is not without conflicts of interest, though. What happens if a client is trying to decide between paying down their mortgage and investing more money? The advisor only benefits from one of the two options but it might not be the best option for the client.

The other problem with this model is that it restricts an advisor’s services to only those who have already accumulated a significant amount of wealth. Many of these advisors have asset minimums, such as requiring at least $500,000 to work with them. It’s not because they are greedy, it’s because they need to keep their business profitable. Advisors must receive a minimum amount of money to make the work of opening and managing an account worth the effort.

Are these advisors worth their fees? Some are and some aren’t. Some advisors transfer your accounts into their management, start collecting their fee, and you never hear from them again. You have no idea what your money is invested in, how it is performing, or if the investment strategy aligns with your goals. These advisors are not worth their fees. But then there are some that meet with you twice a year to review your financial situation and goals. They reach out to you when the market drops to make sure you are okay and regularly monitor and rebalance your accounts to ensure you are on track. These advisors are worth their fees.

Hourly Fees

Some financial advisors don’t want to work on commission but want to be able to work with people who have not accumulated wealth yet, so they work for hourly fees. Fees can range anywhere from $100 to $400 an hour depending on the advisor and the complexity of your needs. The nice thing about hourly fees is that it’s very clear what you are paying and what you are getting for it. There are no surprises and you only have to pay when you actually need help. 

Some advisors shy away from this model, though, because it can discourage people from seeking help when it would benefit them the most. To understand this better, think of a person that doesn’t have health insurance. They get a bad stomach ache but don’t want to pay to see a doctor if it is just indigestion. It continues until their appendix bursts and they end up in the ER. It would have been a lot easier and less painful if they had an ongoing relationship with a doctor that could have caught the problem and prevented the ER visit. People do the same thing with finances. It’s easy to wait until things get really bad to seek help when you could have prevented the problem by seeking help sooner.

Are these advisors worth their fees? Some are and some aren’t. If they give good advice and solve your problem, then they are. If not, then they aren’t.

Flat Fees

The final way that advisors get paid is through flat fees. This could include a flat fee for a one-time engagement or a flat fee for ongoing services. It is different than hourly fees because the advisor doesn’t track hours in order to bill you, they quote you a fee upfront and that is what you pay regardless of how long it takes the advisor. Flat fees for ongoing services are similar to the AUM fee model because you have an ongoing relationship but it is different in that the fees are not dependent upon stock market performance and you don’t have to have investable assets to work with the advisor. 

Like with hourly fees, paying a flat fee cuts down on conflicts of interest. Flat fees are also nice because you know exactly what the engagement will cost upfront and you don’t have to be as worried about the clock as you would be with hourly fees. It can be harder to find an advisor that charges this way, but they are out there and it is a growing movement.

Are they worth their fees? Some are and some aren’t. These advisors can have the same failings as AUM advisors who neglect you and hourly advisors who don’t know what they are talking about. And they can also be absolutely wonderful and help you achieve your goals in a way that you never could have done on your own. 

Are Financial Advisors Worth Their Cost?

As you’ve probably caught on, the answer is that some are and some aren’t. A good financial advisor is worth more than his or her weight in gold. A bad financial advisor is like a bad dentist. You can end up in much worse condition after working with them than you had been in before the encounter. 


Personally, I believe that everyone can benefit from working with a good financial advisor. I know that one and a half hours with a financial advisor drastically changed my life for the better. But I also hear stories about the situations that people end up in after working with a bad advisor and I don’t blame people for avoiding them. Next month, I’ll give you some tips on how to find the good ones.

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The #1 Financial Regret Most Pastors Have

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From time to time I read Thom Rainer’s blog to stay up to date on the issues that pastors are facing today. The most enlightening part is the comments that pastors leave on his articles. When I read the comments on his financial posts, my heart breaks. 

There are so many challenges that pastors face that it makes me want to round you all up, give you big hugs, big thanks, a check for a million dollars, and a free week-long vacation on a private island with your spouse or family. And then go to your congregation and give some of the people a talking to. 

But I can’t really do that, so I’ve chosen just one area, personal finance, where I feel I can actually make a positive impact on your lives. That’s why this blog exists.

What Pastors Regret Most About Their Personal Finances

In reading the comments on his articles and hearing from my own Pastor’s Wallet readers, it’s glaringly obvious that there is one financial area where most pastors end up with regrets. The older pastors are saying, “I wish I had listened when they told me…” and the young pastors are saying, “It’s just too hard right now…”

Can you guess what it is?

Saving for retirement. Like Americans in general, many pastors are saving nothing for retirement. Especially the younger ones. Unlike most Americans, a lot of these pastors won’t even have Social Security to fall back on in their old age because they have opted out.

Why You Need To Save For Retirement

Now, I know that some of you just aren’t planning on retiring. However, that might not be an option for you. If you don’t agree, follow that link and read the article. 

Yes, you can pastor people and preach well into your 80s. But only if you’re sane and healthy. What happens if you get Alzheimer’s? Do you think you’ll still be pastoring then? Or what if you get cancer? My church’s senior pastor had to take a year off to fight cancer. I watched my dad do it, and believe me, you can’t just “keep working.”

Another common excuse I hear among Christians in general for not preparing for the future is “the Lord will take care of me.” Yes, the Lord will take care of you. He is taking care of you now, he gave you a job and tax-advantaged opportunities to save for retirement. He also gave you the Bible as a guidebook for life.

You know what the Bible says? 

Go to the ant, you sluggard;

    consider its ways and be wise!

It has no commander,

    no overseer or ruler,

yet it stores its provisions in summer

    and gathers its food at harvest. (Proverbs 6:6-8, NIV)


Several verses later it goes on to say that if you don’t heed this warning, “poverty will come on you like a thief and scarcity like an armed man.” (verse 11) In times of plenty, you are supposed to prepare for times of scarcity. Joseph understood that and we all know the incredible results of his wisdom.

You are working now. You need to prepare for times of scarcity, like when you cannot work any longer. God is providing now for your future needs. Don’t waste the opportunity that he has given you. 

The Value Of Starting Young

When you’re young, you think of old age as being a lifetime away. Because, well, it pretty much is. But that makes it hard to think of the necessity of saving for retirement in concrete terms. It’s just not very real to you when you’re in your 20s. 

However, that’s the most important time to be thinking about it. Why? Compounding interest. If you aren’t familiar with it, follow that link and read the article. When it comes to saving, compound interest makes time your most valuable asset.

If you start to save $20 a month when you are 25 and it grows at a rate of 8% until you are 65, you will end up with $69,820.


If you wait until you are 45 to do the same, you will end up with $11,780. Your total contributions are half what they would have been if you had started younger but your growth is only 12% of what it would have been. 


To start at age 45 and get the same results as the 25-year-old putting away $20, you would have to save over $118 a month! You see why it’s so valuable to start saving early?

It’s Never Too Late To Start Saving For Retirement

That’s all fine and dandy, Amy, but it’s a little too late for me to start saving young. Is there any hope?

Yes! If you’re getting on in years and haven’t been saving much, you may find this article pretty depressing so far. Cheer up! While you may have missed out on some opportunities, it’s never too late to start saving. Even if you’re 50-years-old, if you start saving $350 a month and don’t retire until age 70 you’ll have over $200,000 to live off of with an 8% rate of growth. 

The good news is that pastors usually don’t need as much saved for retirement as some other people. Why? You’re used to living on less.

The two major factors in retirement planning are how much you’ve saved and how much you spend. Some people have such a lifestyle where even having $5 million in savings won’t be enough. 

Even if it’s too late for you to save a lot for retirement, you can develop a lifestyle that will not require a lot in retirement. And that can be just as powerful. 

How Do You Start Saving For Retirement?

While you may be convinced of the importance of saving for retirement, that doesn’t mean you have any clue what to do about it. It’s okay, I was in the same boat. Until I sat down with a financial advisor, I had no idea what to do with money beyond my Bank of America savings account. And I wasn’t going to get very far with my savings with that 0.04% interest rate.

That 1½ hours with a financial advisor completely changed the trajectory of my family’s finances and I know its impact will be felt for multiple generations. While I’m a proponent of working with a financial advisor on a regular basis, I understand that it simply isn’t feasible for many people. However, I know from personal experience that even just an hour can be life-changing. 

Because of this, I would encourage every one of you to do just that: sit down with a financial advisor for an hour or two so that he or she can get you on the right track for retirement. 

If you don’t know a trusted financial advisor, my friend Ben Wacek of Guide Financial Planning is a Certified Financial Planner™ and Certified Kingdom Advisor® who works with pastors on a regular basis, mostly via video calls. He offers Quick Start Sessions where he will sit down with you for one to two hours and answer any questions you have and help you figure out a plan for your finances. You’ll also get a written summary of your meeting that clearly outlines the next steps you need to take, all for $500. You can schedule a Quick Start Session directly on his calendar using this link. He’s even agreed to offer a $50 discount to anyone who books before February 29, 2020 and mentions Pastor’s Wallet.

Five hundred dollars is a lot, but I am fully convinced that it will be more than worth it for you. If you don’t have an extra $500, go talk to one of the businessmen or businesswomen in your congregation. Tell them that you want to meet with a financial advisor (who won’t be selling you any products) in order to be a better steward of your finances and ask them to foot the bill. I’d love it if my pastor asked me that and I’d bend over backward to make it possible. (This is a good test to see if my pastor reads this blog!)

Full Disclosure: I do work with Ben on a part-time basis but receive no commission or monetary benefit if you choose to work with him. My only incentive is to help you make the most of the money God has entrusted to you. 


If you won’t meet with a financial professional, at least open up an IRA and start putting some money into it. Make sure the money is invested so that it can grow. If you’re not interested in learning all about investments, just stick it in the Target Date Fund where the year is closest to your anticipated retirement. Then set up automatic contributions from your bank account. Even if that’s all you do, you’re heading in the right direction and ahead of a lot of your peers.

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Does It Really Matter If Your Financial Advisor Is A Christian?

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“Then he looked across the table at us, disappointment written all over his face, and said, ‘If only you had worked more…’” The dean of women and a beloved professor at the Bible college I attended was telling us about an encounter she had with her financial advisor. While her children were young, she chose to put her career on hold in order to raise them. Now that they were grown, the financial advisor was telling her and her husband that they were not on track to retire with their peers.

When she told us this story, I wanted to jump out of my seat and tell her, “They aren’t all like that! There are good ones out there!”

It pained me to hear that a financial professional had made her feel like a failure simply because he had a different worldview. She and her husband may not have enough money to stop working today and spend the last decades of their lives on a golf course, but one of her children is a pastor and church planter and the other one is a missionary in Southeast Asia, so I think she made the right decision.

Does Your Financial Advisor’s Religion Matter?

When you think of working with a professional, religion isn’t usually the first thing that comes to mind. It’s not like dating and marriage. So what if your dentist has a different worldview than you do. Does that mean she doesn’t clean your teeth as well? Not really.

Atheist plumbers can unclog toilets and Jewish lawyers can write good wills, so why would financial professionals be any different? The difference is in worldview and priorities. I think it’s safe to say that people of all faiths believe that toilets should flush rather than overflow. And people of all different religious backgrounds agree that legal documents should be written in accordance with the law.

But finances are different. They’re more personal. They’re more subjective. There is a lot more variance as to how people view money and its purpose and management.

Not All Non-Christian Advisors Are Bad

Does that mean that only Christian financial advisors are good? By all means, no. There are many true professionals out there who are able to set their own personal beliefs aside in order to help their clients. There are many who understand that there is much more to life than just accumulating wealth.

Just because someone hasn’t met Jesus yet doesn’t mean they can’t help you be a better steward of your money. Who knows, maybe God has paired you with them so that you can be a light in their world. Just because a financial advisor is not a Christian doesn’t mean you can’t have a fruitful and successful relationship with them.

Not All Christian Advisors Are Good

In much the same way, just because an advisor professes to be a Christian does not mean that he shares your worldview or has your best interest in mind. Many advisors use their religion as nothing more than a marketing tool.

Christians often trust other Christians. Some unscrupulous people take advantage of that fact. And it doesn’t just happen in the finance industry, it happens everywhere. You should never hire someone just because they profess to be a Christian or have a fish on their business card. You need to practice discernment and be wise.

The Difference In Working With Someone Who Shares Your Belief System

Working with a financial professional who truly understands Biblical stewardship and shares your heart for God’s Kingdom can make a world of difference, though. Recently, I’ve gotten to witness this firsthand. Since my goal is to become a financial advisor, this spring I started apprenticing with one in order to get some hands-on education.

Seeing how true faith and finance can intersect has been an eye-opening experience. Whereas most financial advisors start out with questions like At what age do you want to be able to retire? and How much money do you want to accumulate?, this guy starts with What does stewardship mean to you? Sounds to me a lot more like a pastor than an investment advisor chasing returns. Because that’s how it’s supposed to be.

A financial advisor should basically be a pastor for the financial side of your life. They should be there to help you think through your options, articulate your dreams and goals, and then come up with a plan to finance them. That’s much easier done with someone who shares your value system and understands your worldview.

In one of my financial planning textbooks, it talks about budgeting and cash flow planning. It discusses the difference between fixed expenses that you’re committed to paying, like a car payment or groceries, and discretionary expenses that are optional, like eating out or cable TV. The book states, “Some clients who tithe may initially consider monthly gifts in the fixed column. Advisors should consider encouraging clients to classify gifting (including tithing) as a variable expense.”

When I read that my blood started to boil. Financial planning students are being taught to pressure their clients to dismiss Biblical stewardship in favor of a Godless approach to money management.

If you’ve worked with someone who has pressured you to compromise your values or who has made you feel inferior for your choices, I want you to know that you don’t have to. Financial advisors who espouse Biblical stewardship do exist.

How To Find A Christian Financial Advisor

Growing up in a tiny church, I never knew any Christians my own age. When I visited the Bible college for the first time and saw a bunch of my peers passionately worshiping God I had an epiphany. Oh, wow, they really do exist!  

I’d like to give you the same epiphany regarding financial advisors. They aren’t all out there pushing products to pad their own pockets. Biblically wise financial counsel does exist.

If you’re interested in finding a Christian advisor, look first on the Christian Financial Advisors Network. You can also search for one on the Kingdom Advisors website or search for a Christian advisor on the XY Planning Network website. You’ll be amazed at the difference it makes when you’re equally yoked.

I am not affiliated with Christian Financial Advisors Network, Kingdom Advisors, or XY Planning Network and receive no benefit for recommending them. I just know some of their advisors and think you would benefit from knowing them too!

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Do You Know How To Use The F Word?

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I mean fiduciary. Why, what were you thinking?

 

Fiduciary, pronounced fi-DOO-she-air-ee. In the financial services industry, this is a very important word. It describes a kind of relationship. The kind of relationship you want to have with someone giving you financial advice.

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